--- BOF de KDE ---

  Isaac  Clerencia        Adeodato Simó
  isaac@debian.org     adeodato@debian.org

            Guadalajara, 2005-12-17












--- Típicas cosas que se dicen al final ---

  * Gracias a:
    las pringles de Jorge Arcas
    los filipinos de linuxmaniac

  * This presentation was prepared with free soft:
    
      V I M

--- Who, what, when ---
alioth% getent group pkg-kde | smart-filter
pkg-kde:x:40221:luk,bab,isaac,jdmetz-guest,pyro,
ana-guest,adeodato,chrsmrtn,schepler,noel,madcoder


% grep-available -FMaintainer \
       "debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org" -c
423

  http://people.debian.org/~madcoder/kde.png


% echo "V2hlbj8KU2luY2UgRGVjLiAyMDA0Cg==" | 
  recode /base64
When?
Since Dec. 2004

--- Timeline ---
Chris 'calc' Cheney-era
 * All the work done by only one person
   (<- really? wow)

 * This sucked because:

   * Only one person doing all the work means:
     * He gets burnt
     * Bug handling becomes a nightmare
       (1403 open bugs right now)
     * Difficult to get timely uploads: bottleneck

   * Additionally:
     * 0 collaboration with the release team
     * Very flamy with the buildd network

Team maintainance v0.0 (2004-01 - 2004-10)
 * bootstrapped by calc and Madkiss

 * pkg-kde project at Alioth is born
   http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/

 * svn repo created
   (10 months, 150 commits by one person,
    mostly "monster commits")
 * biggest problem: ETOOSTRICTRULES,
   http://tinyurl.com/bzgd3
   * primary maintainer for each module
   * commits/uploads to a "not yours" module need
     blessing
   * this right can be revoked completely

Shy attempts by dato and Th. (2004-11)
 * some stuff under people/
 * keep svn up to date with monster commits!

Dato and Th. (¹) hijack^Wfriendly step up (2004-12)
 * prepare 3.3.2 upload to experimental
   (http://tinyurl.com/botxt)
 * coordination with the release team to put
   3.3.1 in testing (uncoordinated upload...)
 * finally, 3.3.2 in sarge!!1o1n1e!one11one11!!

 (¹) Thucydides, but that's impossible to type.
     Christopher Martin <chsrmrtn@debian.org>

Debian Qt/KDE team reforged
 * dato and Th. keep doing great work 
 * they trick isaac into uploading some packages
 * MadCoder joins
 * bab hands out some packages to the "gestalt"

Debian Qt/KDE team members meet at Málaga
 * they (dato, th, isaac) have dinner together 
   (team building!!!)

State of the art in Debian Qt/KDE teams worldwide
 * luk joins, mainly, to help with transitions
 * jdmetz joins to do lots of stuff
 * again, gestalt gets some more bab packages

 frob (Daniel Schepler)

--- How do we work? ---

* Hilights
 * comunism! "todo es de todos"
 * communicate & collaborate with other teams
   (esp. Release Team for transitions and
    GNOME dudes for the stack)
 * be nice to other developers (the m68k thing)

* Social stuff, other stuff
 * yay buen rollito!
 * seeing others rock makes you want to rock too
 * what if somebody fucks up???
 * do not hand accounts like churros, but don't 
   be too bureaucratic either
 * don't fear teaching newcomers that some
   behavior is not acceptable
 * leadership: directly proportional to work done

* Tools
 * Subversion: svn.debian.org/pkg-kde
   (everybody can commit everywhere)
 * IRC <-- imprescindible for coordination
   (the importance of screen and 24/7)
 * Mailing lists:
   * debian-qt-kde@l.d.o, bug honeypot: maint addr
   * pkg-kde-talk@l.a.d.o, packaging coordination
   * pkg-kde-commits@l.a.d.o, SVN commits <-- cool
 * Alioth for pre-releases or stuff that can't be
   uploaded. Benefits?: use of non-DD powa'.

Packaging
 * Big number of packages: keep them similar!
 * We standarized on CDBS ({debian-qt-,}kde.mk)
 * Changelog handling
 * common patches to admin/
 * upstream tarball -> purge debian/ + non-free content -> .orig.tar.gz's
 * buildprep
 * ...
 * other useful tips


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